Where are all the feminists? Why is there no out cry?

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  1. Kim
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 10:15:35

    Al-‘Arifi also stated that “Prince Nawaf would not like his wife or daughter to participate, and thus he should likewise be eager to protect the reputation and virtue of his Muslim sisters.” Of course there’s nothing wrong with trying to protect people’s virtue and reputation; however, the fact that this only applies to women and not men is telling. Women under Islam are seen as sex objects only, which is why a man’s female relatives must be covered up and controlled at all times in order to protect the family’s honor.


    • Sherry
      Nov 30, 2011 @ 13:17:39

      I loved Will Doohan’s response at that site!~
      “They really are scared sh*tless of women, aren’t they?”

      What maroons…I suppose it would be OK if there are no men around and if the women keep their hijabs on. Speaking of hijabs…I believe there are two reasons for having their women wear them. One, is so that men can dress like hijabbed women in war time while packing a bomb (of which most civil militaries would be reluctant to fire upon a woman) and, two, to cover up the abuse these women receive on their faces which is, for the most part, forbidden to do by the imams.


      • Kim
        Nov 30, 2011 @ 13:27:55

        They are TERRIFIED of women – why else would they blame their own inability to control their urges on women?

  2. Sherry
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 13:19:27

    I did run across an article a while back where the NOW was protesting the Nigerian Embassy concerning stoning women to death. But they sure haven’t been doing anything newsworthy for these oppressed Muslim women lately.


  3. Sherry
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 13:23:20

    Okay. I want to cry~

    From the London Evening Standard:
    More than three thousand London girls are at risk of genital mutilation every year, experts warned today.

    The report by black and ethnic minority women’s organisation Imkaan found that in the city 3,500 baby girls are born every year to mothers who have suffered female genital mutilation, and therefore are at risk themselves. This is an increase of 65 per cent in 10 years.
    At least there is something being done about it:
    Imkaan is calling for all school teachers to be trained to help girls who are facing violence and is calling on David Cameron to tackle the issue.


  4. Kim
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 13:31:00

    This goes back to the muslim mans abject fear of women and the control she has over him –

    these creatures are beyond despicable and yet liberals are still trying to push them down out throats!

    Read this!!!


    • Sherry
      Nov 30, 2011 @ 14:21:36

      Dang straight we are a threat! We slay men’s consciences with the truth and the Holy Spirit capture’s men’s souls to be held captive to Jesus, for He takes captive the captives (of the soul’s enemy). You know the light of truth causes blinding pain to the eyes of those living in darkness.


  5. Kim
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 14:33:34

    I think they mean a national security threat – as in looking for a way to arrest people


  6. Kim
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 14:43:51



  7. Kim
    Nov 30, 2011 @ 16:11:34

    Thousands of Muslims attacked and besieged Copts in elGhorayzat village, population 80,000, killing two Copts and severely wounding others, as well as looting and torching homes and businesses. A quarrel between a Copt, John Hosni, and Mahmoud Abdel-Nazeer, who later died in hospital, turned into collective punishment of all Copts in the majority Christian village of elGhorayzat, in the Maragha district of Sohag province. Muslims vowed not to bury Abdel-Nazeer until John Hosni is punished. Mr. Hosni fled from the village with his family, “fearing a wholesale massacre of Copts,” reported activist Mariam Ragy.


  8. Theou
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 11:11:31

    Why dont we concentrate on womens rights in this country – the draconian laws that have been proposed in Mississippi and other states are direct assaults on women, not to mention the attacks on Planned Parenthood – for every dollar spent at PP we get back four dollars in savings – those from early detection of diseases such as cancer. Reproductive rights and rights over our bodies belongs to all women, but its a little unfair to single out countries overseas when we arent doing so well. I dont see any such laws aimed at men – its the women who always suffer. The right seems to only care about children in the womb – after they are born they wont pass one law to change one childs life by one piece of bread. And so when thru ill treatment, abusive foster homes and other tortures they finally get into death row after a society that has abandoned them after birth – they want to kill them then! Women can make their own judgement about whats right for them and their families. Its like they want to punish women for having sex.


    • Sherry
      Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:49:46

      I’m the “right” and, you better believe it I care about the babies in the womb! WTH? Are they nobodies to you? Looney lefty. How many of the aborted were denied the right to grow up and be liberals/leftists/aggressive progressives, like you?

      Saving $4…yeah, one less mouth to feed on welfare, huh?
      Why do argue exceptions (child abuse, jail, death row? 😕 ) as if they are norms for women having their babies? Oh. That’s what liberals do-get all melodramatic when they want to cling to their culture of death ideology. BTW, many of these women are extremely grateful that they didn’t abort their child. And those that have gone through with one have regrets that lasts their lifetimes despite God’s forgiveness and psyche help. Only a hard-hearted woman would think nothing of what they did to their own flesh and blood.

      Here is a website to peruse that will answer the questions that always comes up from left-wing progressives about how we religious right-wingers do nothing but tell women what to do with their bodies:

      BTW, what law are you wanting passed? You were very vague.


  9. Theou
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 11:27:36

    from NOW website regarding female mutilation:
    Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is an extremely dangerous, inhumane, and medically unnecessary procedure that affects nearly 170,000 girls and women in the United States, and 140 million around the world. FGM is currently illegal in this country under federal law, but Congress must do more to ensure this barbaric destruction of female genitalia — which can lead to death — is permanently and completely eradicated. U.S. Reps. Mary Bono Mack (R-Calif.) and Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) have recently introduced the Girls Protection Act (H.R. 5137) which would make it a crime to transport minors outside the U.S. for the purpose of performing FGM.

    E-mail your members of Congress today and urge them to support this important legislation. Insist that they advocate for the passage of the Girls Protection Act (H.R. 5137).

    Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is an extremely dangerous, inhumane, and medically unnecessary procedure that affects nearly 170,000 girls and women in the United States, and 140 million around the world. FGM is currently illegal in this country under federal law, but Congress must do more to ensure this barbaric destruction of female genitalia — which can lead to death — is permanently and completely eradicated. U.S. Reps. Mary Bono Mack (R-Calif.) and Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) have recently introduced the Girls Protection Act (H.R. 5137) which would make it a crime to transport minors outside the U.S. for the purpose of performing FGM.

    E-mail your members of Congress today and urge them to support this important legislation. Insist that they advocate for the passage of the Girls Protection Act (H.R. 5137).
    Take Action NOW!

    This action is no longer active. To view the current list of our active campaigns click here

    Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is a horrendous, excruciating, and life-threatening practice forced upon women and girls around the world, including countries such as Canada and the United States. FGM destroys the genitalia to conform to outrageous notions of chastity; indeed, part of FGM’s purpose is to prevent women from engaging in “illicit” sexual behavior. FGM often renders women incapacitated for routine urinary functions, and can severely limit or destroy their capacity to feel sexual pleasure. It can lead to severe infections, which can cause death if left untreated.

    FGM is a practice that takes place in parts of Africa, some Asian and Middle Eastern countries, and in certain communities within North America and Europe. The procedure is customary in several cultures, and is perpetuated by a mixture of cultural, social, and religious beliefs. FGM is systematically forced upon women and girls anytime between infancy and marriage under varying justifications, including the enhancement of sexual pleasure for men and the preservation of family honor. NOW and other organizations, including Equality Now and the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), believe that the practice is meant to limit women’s sexual pleasure and to maintain women’s second class status.

    FGM comes in many forms which vary depending upon the type and extent of genital cutting inflicted upon each girl. The World Health Organization (WHO) has identified four major types of FGM, which include partial or total removal of the clitoris, partial or total removal of the labia minora and/or majora, the narrowing of the vaginal opening by the creation of a covering “seal” (a process known as infibulation), and any other harmful procedure done for non-medical purposes, including pricking, piercing, scraping, and cauterizing the genitals.

    Take action NOW!


  10. sugar231
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:30:32

    Theo…Planned Parenthood is not about saving lives or doing what’s best for women. It is a money making organization that only cares about their bottom line. If a woman wants to have an abortion, then that is between her and her maker but my tax-dollars should not go to fund it no more than it should go to fund a vasectomy! Planned abortion is where this organization rakes in their bucks!


    • Sherry
      Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:09:49

      You said it, sugar231!
      This organization would still thrive without our tax dollars. And it is no safer being legal than it was when it was illegal.

      Give the above site a half minute to load. It is a case made for PP to be investigated. They sure do care about women’s rights and children’s rights-snark.


  11. Kim
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:33:41

    “Its like they want to punish women for having sex.”.

    A ridiculous statement. Everyone over the age of 10 knows sex leads to children. If you are having sex be responsible and prevent not only pregnancy but the spread of diseases.

    If you haven’t figured out how to prevent any of these things DON’T HAVE SEX


    • Sherry
      Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:16:12

      Its the oldest argument, along with “us” telling women what they can do with their bodies. Well, yeah! Laws are on the books to tell people how to behave toward others (deal with it, Theou, some of believe its a person the mother is carrying in her womb, aka, “others”). My fist best stop before your nose or I will be arrested for assault. “How dare you tell me what I can do with my own fist! Where’s my choice?!”


  12. Kim
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:40:58

    Theou = link me to this info please

    “Planned Parenthood – for every dollar spent at PP we get back four dollars in savings – those from early detection of diseases such as cancer.”


    • Sherry
      Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:22:22

      So far, no one has proved that PP does mammograms or cancer screening tests although they receive the money for such (they admitted to this when asked concerning the Koman contributions to PP for such tests-they didn’t even provide vouchers for the women to get free tests at nearby clinics). They don’t care if their patients get cancer-its a ruse to make them look like they are all that and a bag of chips in the eyes of the public. A “feel good” mask for their contributors and supporters.


  13. Ray
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:53:54

    Planned Parenthood was founded by Margaret Sanger, who was a German believer in eugenics, or the selective killing of members of the human race in order to “improve the species”. The idea was to abort the children of those inferior examples of humanity, which were identified as Jews, Negros, and mentally handicapped. So it is easy to understand why PP has the majority of their “clinics” in black neighborhoods. As for woman’s rights, etc, an excellent argument is expressed in the 30 minute video 180, available on you tube.


  14. sugar231
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:06:20

    Great info Ray….thanks!


  15. Kim
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:10:01


  16. CptKD
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:33:20

    Something even MORE wrong with this… (Sorry, I wrote a similar comment on the “Horse” post…But this takes the God-dam cake!)

    The whole FGM issue, is HORRIFIC and SAVAGE!

    I am disgusted and ‘raging’ that any woman/girl should EVER have to endure such a vicious and horrendous act – I dare not call that a PROCEDURE!

    I am fit to be tied, reading all of this….

    Apologies for ‘swearing’ and using the Lord’s name in there…

    I have to wonder, how EVER, any of this “cruelty” is ALLOWED, on so many levels, including that which rests on our GREAT CREATOR…

    Fuck, I’m mad!

    Going to find the video Ray mentioned…


  17. Linda
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:36:48

    Theou you have a voice to express your opinion… Why? Because you weren’t aborted. Think long and hard about that.


  18. Sherry
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 20:10:54

    Ideas in Action- Planned Parenthood Agents of Destruction

    There is one major difference between the Planned Parenthood of today and that of Margaret Sanger’s time: Margaret Sanger was brutally honest about her disregard for the unborn, while contemporary abortion advocates hide behind the language of “choice” in order to disguise the ugly reality of what they advocate. Unfortunately, this campaign of misdirection has been wildly successful. Many women instinctively rally behind a woman’s “right to choose,” without giving much thought to the reality behind the choice at issue. In the abortion debate, we aren’t talking about choosing between chocolate or vanilla, fried or scrambled, with fries or without. We are talking about choosing whether a baby will live or die, whether we will kill it or give it life, whether we will destroy or protect an innocent child.


    • Sherry
      Dec 01, 2011 @ 20:31:36

      Also from above link~
      So powerful has our delusion about the reality of abortion become – and so powerful the pro-abortion lobby behind Planned Parenthood – that our elected representatives allocate hundreds of millions of dollars each year to Planned Parenthood. This funding has withstood year after year of budget debates and political controversy. Make no mistake about it, however, that money is blood money. Planned Parenthood preys on the fear and ignorance of women faced with unplanned pregnancies as a means of advancing their twisted worldview. Instead of celebrating life as a blessing, even when unplanned, Planned Parenthood’s operatives peddle the myth that pregnancy and parenthood is some kind misogynistic social construct used to keep women dependent and servile. They tell women that the right to choose abortion is a right intricately tied to their female identity, rather than a betrayal of a sacred duty bestowed by the author of the universe. They tell women that choosing abortion is an empowering decision, not one that can impact future fertility and inflict emotional and psychological scars that last a lifetime.


  19. Sherry
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 20:14:37

    Kim, I’m live chatting with Wild Bill!~ Be still my heart…


  20. Sherry
    Dec 01, 2011 @ 21:34:32

    Not sure where to plop this article~

    Who do they think they are? The U.S. might as well let the Mormons marry multiple wives at this rate…


  21. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 08:01:26


  22. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 08:28:05

    It is happening all over the country and has now hit Wisconsin — attacks on pro-life Pregnancy Help Centers. These agencies exist for a sole purpose — to help a pregnant woman sort through her problems and to present alternatives to abortion. In Wisconsin, thousands of women are assisted each year.


  23. Theou
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 09:04:16

    For every dollar spent on contraception for low-income women, the government saves four dollars in medical costs within the next year by averting unwanted pregnancies, said Ms. Cohen of the Guttmacher Institute.
    As for who believed in Eugenics – many many American doctors and scientists
    also beliveed in this stupid theory and there are many cases of women sterilized in the South, one quite recently in the paper because of it. As far as being able to legislate morality – you can scream and beat your fists all you want – but women have always gotten abortions and they always will. I dont like it, no one likes it – but its the truth. You make it illegal you kick it back to the abortion alleys – but more likely it will go back to the States and you will have women moving across to more liberal states from more conservative ones. As to Sharia law – you dont have to wait for it- we have Evangelical law – where the right tells government to stay out of their lives except when it comes to the Bible – then they want to legislate for the rest of us what we can and cant do. Im sick and tired of hearing about Sharia law when the right wants us all to follow their notions of what is Biblical and if we dont they try to pass laws to make us. So if you are so worried about Sharia Law then pay attention to any law that has to do with the Bible – because its the same damn thing. Strict separation of Church and State is extremely important. Like trying to teach “intelligent design” in a science class.
    Give me a break – we are falling behind math and science at alarming rates compared to European and Asian countries – and they dont want us to teach evolution in the schools because? Intelligent design can be taught in a philosophy class or a class on religion but not in a science class. In an case,
    the majority of Americans do not want abortion to be illegal and just as Prohibition didnt stop the sale of alcohol, making abortion illegal will not stop abortions. Spend your energies on helping the living children that go to bed hungry every night or the elderly that are abandoned and helpless as well and forget trying to foist your idea of morality on others.


    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 10:36:46

      Excuse me but there’s no statitistics to show that there were as many back alley abortions as there are legal ones and that is because it was illegal and no one would dare say they had an abortion or performed one to anyone out of fear of prosecution. Also, legal doesn’t make it safer because women are dying,many are young teens, because of bleeding to death. You, Theou, are not reading at the links provided but just want to spout your morality of legalized murder without knowledge. You present old arguments that have been answered a thousand times over. You’d know that if you would go and peruse the Abortion Facts website.

      Your argument about eugenics being the belief of the day doesn’t hold water. Slavery was a belief of the day, too, but it got ended. Abortion is a form of eugenics and stems from that belief. It needs to end.

      OBVIOUSLY, you don’t know a thing aboput evangelical law either to compare it to sharia law. Did you know that abortion will be illegal under sharia? Did you know that gay men and lesbians will be executed under sharia? Did you know that as Muhammad, himself, was dying from poisoning that he tried to tell his followers that he was a false prophet and no one listened?


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 14:29:46

      Two Texas abortion clinics and the disposal company Stericycle have been slapped with fines in excess of $83,000 for illegal dumping of aborted baby remains, according to documents released to the pro-life organization Operation Rescue.

      The fines are the result of complaints filed by Operation Rescue against Whole Woman’s Health of McAllen and Austin after a three-month undercover investigation.

      Ohhh – now I understand how they are saving money!



  24. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 09:08:46

    You very obviously know nothing of sharia, Theou

    I suggest you learn more and then come back to argue its case to me

    It begins with their lies


  25. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 09:09:35

    Here are a few short cuts for you


  26. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 09:12:19

    It is the duty of every muslim to lie to promote islam


  27. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 09:13:52

    BTW – islam is NOT a religion it is a theocracy in which their belief system controls every aspect of their life

    No where in the Bible does it try to control every aspect of your life and no where in the Constitution is there any religion being forced upon Americans – you really do need to start there with your reading


  28. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 10:03:07


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 10:03:51

      A group of Salafists disrupted classes on Monday at a university west of the capital Tunis, demanding a stop to mixed-sex classes and for female students to wear full face veils, officials said.

      The mob of Salafists also took hostage the dean of the University of Letters, Arts, and Humanities of Manouba along with several other professors.


  29. Sherry
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 10:45:33

    Kim, leaving links for Theou is useless. He/she isn’t reading them. Theou has the superior knowledge, doncha know?


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 10:48:18

      As all Elitist’s believe, Sherry. They also dislike facts when presented.

      The next we should hear will be the cries of racist since that tired old card hasn’t been played here yet


  30. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 10:54:14

    Pay attention to the dates in these links, Theou – this is happening in the modern world – today – as we speak

    » 12/02/2011 15:39
    Afghan women victims of violence and abuse like under the Taliban
    In Kunduz, local leader has acolytes throw acid on the members of a family because the father had refused to give his daughter in marriage. Speaking to AsiaNews, local source slams the country’s tribal Islamic culture, which continues to trample civil laws and human rights. More than 50 per cent of Afghan women in prison are there on adultery charges.


  31. Sherry
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 11:08:41

    One of Planned Parenthoods’ success stories (so much for the savings on those free condoms and birth control methods):


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 11:57:25

      Disgusting, isn’t it? You know those kids are learning the same moral code she has – which is to say none


      • Kim
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:01:26

        What has this woman done to earn anything? Spawning more and more children shouldn’t earn anyone any thing. I did not impregnate her nor would I ever. So how does she deserve any of the money I have earned? Is she spawning children for a living? If so, she has poor management skills since she seems to have burned through all of her and their income. What did she spend it on? They have no food or clothing or stable roof over her head. Yet I am expected to continue to pay for her abominable choices?


        close your damn legs

  32. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:02:43

    Here you go Theou

    In the report Professor Subhi described sitting in a coffee shop in an unnamed Arab state.

    ‘All the women were looking at me,’ he wrote. ‘One made a gesture that made it clear she was available… this is what happens when women are allowed to drive.’


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:04:26

      Repealing a ban on women drivers in Saudi Arabia would result in ‘no more virgins’, the country’s religious council has warned.

      A ‘scientific’ report claims relaxing the ban would also see more Saudis – both men and women – turn to homosexuality and pornography.

      The startling conclusions were drawn by Muslim scholars at the Majlis al-Ifta’ al-A’ala, Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council, working in conjunction with Kamal Subhi, a former professor at the King Fahd University.


      • Kim
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:06:17

        The astonishing report comes after Shaima Jastaniya, a 34-year-old Saudi woman, was sentenced to 10 lashes with a whip after being caught driving in Jeddah.

    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 19:53:48

      This science just betrayed all of womankind.


  33. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:04:51


    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 20:17:34

      Oh for crying out loud! They just don’t want to deal with women drivers. Geesh! Their excuses are so lame.


      • Kim
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:37:46

        Women are so sexually powerful just a glance will drive a man to rape – a gesture, simple as it is – will create chaos

      • Sherry
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 22:41:30

        hmmmm…then maybe for these men its best not to let the women drive. Can you just see the lawsuits because of an accident they blamed on a woman who merely gestered the right of way to a man?

        These women wear hijabs and the men still get hard ons? 🙄

  34. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:29:51

    Must-see speech on Islam in U.S. schools


  35. Sherry
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:58:54

    Just have to pass this along~


  36. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 13:58:32

    The sexploitation of non-Muslim girls by Muslim men is epidemic in the UK. Codeword alert — as in most coverage of Muslims, jihad, etc., code is used. “Asian” in UK press is Muslim. “White girls” is non-Muslim. Yet Islam is not a race, it’s a religion.


  37. Theou
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 14:36:46

    Legalized murder you say? What is the death penalty? – tsk tsk tsk, I always find it amazing how all the “pro-lifers” are for the death penalty. If that isnt legalized murder I dont know what is. Just as I watched that Republican debate where the audience CHEERED when it was said that a man who got ill but had no insurance should just die, Im always amazed at the Rights hypocrisy. Just as your favorite flavor candidate of the week Herman Cain is going down for his hypocrisy of being a serial adulterer, most of the Right talk out of two sides of their mouths. One for the masses to hear one for their corporate masters or girlfriends to hear.
    The biggest hypocrite on this is Rick Santorum who is against abortion no matter what the circumstances – did you know his wife had a late term abortion
    here is the link and its true:

    In the 19th week of her pregnancy, Karen discovered during a routine exam that the fetus she was carrying had a fatal defect and was going to die inside of her. A long-shot surgery was performed that required cutting directly into the womb. It
    carried a high risk of infection and was performed not to save the fetus, but to reduce Karen’s complications while she attempted to go full term.

    Two days later, she became severely feverish. She was rushed to the hospital and placed on intravenous antibiotics, which reduced her fever and bought her some time, but could not eliminate the source of infection: the fetus.

    Karen was going to die if her pregnancy was not ended, if the fetus was not removed from her body. So, at 20 weeks, one month before what doctors consider ‘viability’, labor was artificially induced and the infected fetus was delivered. It died shortly thereafter.
    They can try and say “it wasn’t aborted, we just induced labor early and our child died.” Bullshit. The fetus was forced out with the knowledge that it would not survive, in order to save the mother. Something that liberals support, and we don’t apply double standards.

    I can’t wait for the first sign that says “If Santorum was actually pro life, his wife would be dead.”
    here is the link:
    Its all over the web – its the same old thing with the Right – do as we say and not what we do.


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 15:04:56

      “They can try and say “it wasn’t aborted, we just induced labor early and our child died.” ”

      Did they say that? I didn’t see it anywhere.


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 15:11:33

      Typical liberal, don’t actually LISTEN
      The crowd cheered when Dr Paul reminded the questioner that the hypothetical young man had CHOSEN to take the risk of no insurance and thus had CHOSEN the risk of falling ill and needing insurance



      • Sherry
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 20:47:00

        Kim, you can’t fix stupid. Once a liberal hears their favorite talkinghead say something, even out of context though it be, they run with it without checking the truth of it. Critical thinking and logic are too laborious for them. They like absudities and create them to attack conservatives with.

      • Sherry
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 20:52:14

        “That’s what freedom is all about, taking your own risks.” Only a socialist loving liberal would interpret that to mean:

        Just as I watched that Republican debate where the audience CHEERED when it was said that a man who got ill but had no insurance should just die, Im always amazed at the Rights hypocrisy.

        Another thing that amazes me is how the loony lefties don’t want to listen to what is really said. 😕

    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 20:22:39

      Not that you will read it~

      Leave it to the libs and progressives who think nothing of murdering the most vulnerable and innocent to think higher of a guilty person’s life who thought nothing of murdering an innocent person. Yeah. That make’s sense-not.


      • Kim
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:35:16

        They aren’t people yet, Sherry – only the promise of human life

        who are we to stand in the way of such intellectuals that know far more than we as to who should live or die

        imagine all the doctors they have slaughtered

      • Sherry
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 22:45:35

        And the atheists and the socialists and the aggressive progressives and the Marxists…and the pinkos…
        Oh my! The liberal/Marxist agenda might very well have come further along by now had there not been the abortions of those like minded to the socialist cause.

      • Sherry
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 23:52:22

    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 20:36:36

      I’m always amazed at the left’s hypocrisy~


  38. Theou
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:00:26

    I listened, so he chose it – so what? – does that mean we let him die? He was a young man -(hypothetically) young people sometimes make choices that arent wise – so that means he should DIE FOR IT? Yes I feel your compassion – not.


  39. Theou
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:04:52

    Thanks for posting it, it shocks me as much now as it did when I first heard it. Everything thats wrong with this party is reflected in their attitudes – from all of the debates so far. No child labor laws, no department of Energy (ah when they remember its name) by the way, who handles the nukes) no Department of Education
    no EPA (after all who needs clean air and water -not to mention safe food) no unions
    right 40 hour work weeks are so yesterday. Bunch of mind-numbing idiots.


    • Kim
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:10:59

      So you simply prefer the government to completely control your life from cradle to grave. You want no autonomy. Life for you is much simpler when that big old government holds your hand.


      • Sherry
        Dec 02, 2011 @ 20:25:13

        Of course Theou loves to have less money in his/her pocket because he/she wants a nanny state that wastes money.

        Thanks to banning DDT Malaria is on the rise again in 3rd world countries. How compassionate.

    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:08:25

      I repeat:

      Here is what the audience cheered about:

      “That’s what freedom is all about, taking your own risks.”

      Only a socialist loving liberal would interpret that to mean:

      Just as I watched that Republican debate where the audience CHEERED when it was said that a man who got ill but had no insurance should just die, Im always amazed at the Rights hypocrisy.

      Only the host brought it up about dying and only one person shouted “Yeah!” while Ron Paul was saying “No…” to letting him just die. The others were clapping about RP’s answer prior to the “let him die” question. How many uninsured people have gone to the hospital in dire medical emergency to be told they’ll just have to leave and die so far pre-Obamacare? None. Nada. Zip. Even when there were repubs in office! LOL!

      Hospitals cannot turn anyone away. That’s why we pay alot for our medical bills-to cover the uninsured.

      Kim, this is getting to be laughable with Theou. Same ol’, same ol’.


  40. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:05:20

    I chose not to have insurance and so when I was diagnosed with cancer I had to assume the cost. If this hypothetical young man chooses to not carry insurance then he assumes the cost, like I did.


  41. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:41:34


  42. Kim
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 18:30:21


    • Sherry
      Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:15:23

      She got a well-deserved standing-O!

      i dunno. Ya gotta watch out for toddler and granny terrorists, too. We gotta be sensitive to the Muslim extremists so as not to offend while profiling.


  43. Sherry
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 00:13:36

    Iran says men can take a second wife and do not have to talk it over with the first. If I were a man taking a second wife I would want to tread reeeeal careful.


    • Kim
      Dec 03, 2011 @ 09:57:03

      I agree, if the woman wasn’t born and raised believing this was right

      you know they have got to be smart enough to not try that here, right?



      • Sherry
        Dec 03, 2011 @ 10:58:00

        Oh. I dunno. They practice honor killings here but, thankfully, they are sent to prison for it. If Muslims can multi-marry then the Mormons can practice their polygamy. They were denied that practice because religious freedom does not ascend the law of the land.

  44. Sherry
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 00:16:11

    Latrine Directive! Well, it was only a matter of time. We don’t want men peeing in a urinal facing Mecca…or is it facing away from Mecca? I thank God that I was not born a male Muslim!


    • Sherry
      Dec 03, 2011 @ 00:23:17

      From the link:

      Needless to say, the Marine Corps doesn’t see it that way. Its spokesmen have contended narrowly that this lesson taught by a contractor (hired by the Corps) isn’t “formal Marine Corps doctrine,” as the Marine Corps Times editorial puts it. Formal or not, the editors also don’t think this Marine Shariah (Islamic law) is a bad idea. Headlined “Respect differences,” the editorial states: “Thing is, there’s value to this sort of insight.” Perhaps in the name of respecting “differences”?

      Heavens, no. This is all about respecting Islam, not “differences.” After all, if it were about “differences,” the respect in question would extend to the non-Islamic belief that not all bodily functions taking place on planet Earth must key off the location of a town in Saudi Arabia. To each his own.


  45. Kim
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 09:54:49

    See, the issue here is respect. Who deserves it more – the lazy savages who wrap women like mummies and prefer goats or the brave fighting men and women who are sacrificing more than these inbred idiots can ever comprehend?

    I vote for respecting the MARINES!!


    • Sherry
      Dec 03, 2011 @ 11:01:27

      I’ll take the Marines. They don’t hide behind women and children like the cowards do. They do their level best not to harm civilians unlike the enemies they fight. The Marines deserve the utmost honor and respect, not the followers of some paper moon god.


  46. Kim
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 10:56:44

    BARBARISM IN THE 21ST CENTURY: “Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Thursday pardoned an Afghan woman serving a 12-year prison sentence for having sex out of wedlock after she was raped by a relative.” Well, maybe the pardon represents progress.

    On the other hand, there’s this: “Karzai’s office said in a statement that the woman and her attacker have agreed to marry. That would reverse an earlier decision by the 19-year-old woman, who had previously refused a judge’s offer of freedom if she agreed to marry the rapist.”


  47. Sherry
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 11:15:37

    Black Friday shows sales of firearms up 32% from last year. I wonder why? No, not really.


  48. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 10:36:45

    Some very worthy persons, who have not had great advantages for information, have objected against that clause in the constitution which provides, that no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. They have been afraid that this clause is unfavorable to religion.

    But my countrymen, the sole purpose and effect of it is to exclude persecution, and to secure to you the important right of religious liberty. We are almost the only people in the world, who have a full enjoyment of this important right of human nature.

    In our country every man has a right to worship God in that way which is most agreeable to his conscience. If he be a good and peaceable person he is liable to no penalties or incapacities on account of his religious sentiments; or in other words, he is no subject to persecution.

    But in other parts of the world, it has been, and still is, far different. Systems of religious error have been adopted, in times of ignorance. It has been the interest of tyrannical kings, popes, and prelates, to maintain these errors.

    When the clouds of ignorance began to vanish, and the people grew more enlightened, there was no other way to keep them in error, but to prohibit their altering their religious opinions by severe persecuting laws. In this way persecution became general throughout Europe. It was the universal opinion that one religion must be established by law; and that all who differed in their religious opinions, must suffer the vengeance of persecution.

    In pursuance of this opinion, when popery was abolished in England, and the Church of England was established in its stead, severe penalties were inflicted upon all who dissented from the established church.

    In the time of the civil wars, in the reign of Charles I., the presbyterians got the upper hand, and inflicted legal penalties upon all who differed from them in their sentiments respecting religious doctrines and discipline.

    When Charles II. was restored, the Church of England was likewise restored, and the presbyterians and other dissenters were laid under legal penalties and incapacities.

    It was in this reign, that a religious test was established as a qualification for office; that is, a law was made requiring all officers civil and military (among other things) to receive the Sacrament of the Lord’s Supper, according to the usage of the Church of England, written [within?] six months after their admission to office under the penalty of 500 [pounds] and disability to hold the office.

    And by another statute of the same reign, no person was capable of being elected to any office relating to the government of any city or corporation, unless, within a twelvemonth before, he had received the sacrament according to the rites of the Church of England.

    The pretence for making these severe laws, by which all but churchmen were made incapable of any office civil or military, was to exclude the papists; but the real design was to exclude the protestant dissenters.

    From this account of test-laws, there arises an unfavorable presumption against them. But if we consider the nature of them and the effects which they are calculated to produce, we shall find that they are useless, tyrannical, and peculiarly unfit for the people of this country.

    Oliver Ellsworth “On a Religious Test for Holding Public Office” (December 17,1787)


  49. Theou
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 11:48:38

    What in the world is your obsession with the Muslims? – I know what they preach and I know what they dont preach – Im very well aware of their dogma, as well as the Catholics and other religions. Keith Ellison the first Muslim elected to congress is from the 5th district of Minnesota I havent seen any Sharia Law in that great State.
    Get over it – there are 2.2 billion Muslims in the world – most of them peaceful
    and there are 1.8 billion Catholics in the world – you cant change any of their beliefs nor should you want to. Live your own life with goodness in your heart and try to help your fellow man and animals too. Every human on this spinning little blue ball in the universe should be treated as an individual and your blanketing of all Muslims or any other group just shows you up for what you are – prejudiced
    against them all. The conservative right is marching down the path of fascism
    and they know it. Just as the Germans say they didnt know it during
    the 30’s the fascist government too, put a value on one religion over an other and we know what that led to. Fascism is real and the way that the GOP is talking I see them in lockstep toward it. All of sudden changing the constitution is something they all seem to be for. Ann Coulter is not someone I would be proud to show a video of. She is a disgusting hate monger – but she fits in the Beck Hannity and
    the biggest of them all Rush Limbaugh and all the rest of what I call the Joseph
    Goebbels school of propaganda and downright lies. No one has any respect for Rupert Murdochs stations and if it werent for his money he and his son would be in jail for the wire-tapping scandal.


    • Kim
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:06:14

      Educate yourself – I dare you


      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:27:01

        Kim! What did you do to your “stick your head in the …sand” comment? I loved it!
        Meanwhile, its a waste of time to educate Theou. But others reading his/her speil will see our concern over what he/she blasts us for and consider him/her stupid beyond the pale.

    • Sherry
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:24:13

      There It is!~

      Do you think your precious liberals, lefties, aggressive progressives are the against fascism? Hahahahahahahaha!!!! You do crack me up! You are the most ignorant (as in one who purposely lacks knowledge of what you taklk about and accuse conservatives of) commentor I’ve ever met. You do have those coming in close second, though.

      For one thing, you are a pacivist who thinks your neck will be safe from beheading without reverting to Islam. WRONG-O! Plus, you think that because the majority of Muslims are peace-loving (and you are right in this) that it means that sharia law won’t come to America. Silly twit! It already has come to America! BTW, where were the voices of these peacenik Muslims loudly denouncing 9/11? HmmMMMmmm??? They are powerless over the radicals that want to win the world for Allah.

      Here are some violent Quran scriptures for you~

      Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'”
      Qur’an:8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”
      Qur’an:8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”
      Ishaq:326 “If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah’s enemies.”
      Qur’an:8:67 “It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.”
      Ishaq:472 “Muhammad’s Companions are the best in war.”
      Qur’an:8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels out to the last.'”
      Qur’an:8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'”
      Qur’an:8:15 “Believers, when you meet unbelieving infidels in battle while you are marching for war, never turn your backs to them. If any turns his back on such a day, unless it be in a stratagem of war, a maneuver to rally his side, he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge!”
      Qur’an:8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”
      Ishaq:204 “‘Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man?’ ‘Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'”

      Even the Moderate Muslims will be killed for not being Muslim enough. If you cared about the peace-loving Muslims, which we do, and if you care about the atrocities committed against Muslim women and children, which we do, then you wouldn’t be questioning why we are speaking out against the islamization of America.


      • Kim
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:34:03


        and SNAP!

      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:34:13

        Just an FYI, those quran scriptures are from the later revelations of Muhammad. When asked which scriptures should be followed, the love thy infidel neighbor ones or the kill thy infidel neighbor ones, Muhammad told his followers the later ones are the ones to obey (i.e., kill in the name of Allah). Ofcourse, that was after he was rejected by the Jews and Christians calling him a false prophet and no messenger of the only true God.

  50. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 11:51:19

    I am of course proud to show video of Ms Coulter! She tells the truth, something rare in this PC addicted era.

    As for my ‘obsession’ I will never stop spreading the word of what they are!


  51. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 11:54:05

    My so call prejudice comes from knowing what they are and their agenda against all America. If you chose to live with your head up … er, in the sand, so be it.


  52. Sherry
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:43:26

    I like how Theou qualifies herself as knowledgeable about the Islam dogma. She must believe the “peace-loving” beliefs of Islam which is true and I ran across it on the ‘net the other night. Even I loved their beliefs from that site and wished it were true. However, when one knows and understands taqiyya, lying for the sake of conquering the world for Allah, then it comes to light that it cannot be trusted that Muslims follow such beliefs. They do to your face but behind your back they plot your reversion or death.


    • Kim
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:46:42

      Also remember any muslim looking to leave islam is put to death as well as anyone caught preaching any other religion

      As for being peace loving and tolerant – how many churches are in Mecca? How many synagogues?


      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:49:51

        After seeing what was done in Egypt to the Christian businesses and churches no one can say they are peace-loving and tolerant.

        Did you know our God does not tell us to be tolerant of evil and to expose evil when we see it? Good job in that, Kim! Forward, march! 😀

      • Kim
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:57:32

        In the case of islam evil has exposed itself to those brave enough to look

    • Sherry
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:54:18

      Another note: sharia demands that Muslims do not hold any loyalty to the country they live in that is not Muslim/islamized.


      • Kim
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:59:03

        This is why they refuse to assimilate which is vital to the health of the nation welcoming immigrants

  53. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:02:15

    Prophecy 101: Walid Shoebat – Islam & Satan (Main Discussion)
    Walid Shoebat was born in Bethlehem to a North American mother and a Jordanian father. His grandfather was the Muslim Mukhtar of Beit Sahour-Bethlehem (The Shepherd’s Fields) and also a friend of Haj-Ameen Al-Husseni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and notorious friend of Adolf Hitler. Walid’s great grandfather, Abdullah Ali Awad-Allah, was also a fighter and close associate of both Abdul Qader and Haj Amin Al-Husseini, who led the Palestinians against Israel.
    – Walid lived through and witnessed the Six Day War while living in Jericho.
    As a young man, he became a member of the P.L.O. (the Palestinian Liberation Organization), and participated in acts of terror and violence against Israel, and was later imprisoned in the Russian Compound, Jerusalem’s central prison for incitement and violence against Israel. After his release, he continued his life of violence and rioting in Bethlehem and the Temple Mount.
    – Eventually, Walid went to the U.S, where he worked as a counselor for the Arab Student Organization at Loop College in Chicago and continued his anti-Israel activities. The transformation came In 1993, when Walid began to study the Bible in a bid to convert his Catholic wife to Islam. However, after several months of intense study, Walid realized that everything he had been taught and believed about Christianity and the Jews during his Islamic upbringing was not in fact true. Walid realized that as a Muslim he was actually on the side of Satan and evil. Driven by a deep passion to heal his own soul, and to bring the truth about Christianity, the Jews and Israel to the world, Walid shed his former life as a Muslim terrorist and stopped working as a software engineer and set out to bring the cause of Christianity and Israel to people’s throughout the world: establishing contact with churches, synagogues, civic groups, government leaders and media outlets. He has spoken all over the United States and Canada. He has also visited Mexico, Chile, the UK and South Africa, appearing also on television including CNN, FOX News, ITN, RTE, NBC, CBS, and ABC. He has also been featured on BBC radio 4 and 5.


  54. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:04:18


  55. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:05:37


    • Sherry
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:31:06

      I like ceeker248. I’m subscribed to his channel. He ministers to Muslims and has videos to teach us how to minister to them. And he even tells us what we will be told about our faith and their beliefs by Muslims and what our response should be. He puts out some good videos.


      • Kim
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:40:38

        An educated person is less likely to fall for the bullshit

      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:51:43

        My confession is that I thought the same about Muslims until I got educated, thanks to you. I really never gave it much thought except it ticked me off to hear the Muslims getting special treatment in schools. I heard what Brigette Gabrielle said teaching Islam in that video years ago and, as a Christian, was offended. I couldn’t understand why Americans were allowing this to go on in the schools. Along with practicing Yoga which is against the Christian faith in its hedonistic exercises.

      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:54:36

        😳 I meant that i felt the same about Muslims as Theou does…but at least I looked into it for the debate’s sake and got my eyes opened up to the truth. Theou? We can only hope he/she does the same.

      • Kim
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:56:21

        Political correctness is destroying the world. Tolerating the intolerant will be the death knell to civilization.
        Barbarians are indeed at the gate

      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 15:36:09

        “Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” ~Thomas Mann

      • Kim
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:58:39

        I too was that way until my eyes were opened 3 years or so ago. I can’t un-open them any more than I can deny the truth of what islam is and what the ultimate goal is.

        I am awake and I will continue to shine a light on islam until I can no longer

  56. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:07:51


  57. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:08:38


  58. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:10:11


  59. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:15:44


  60. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:18:19


    • Kim
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:21:29

      Islam,-It not a Religion! It’s Ideology. All Religions want to make followers better Humans.

      Ideology it’s something, others want to shove up in others throat or to kill those, who do not want to be submitted.

      Examples of Ideology: Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Islam.

      You do not have to read “Mein Kampf”(Hitler) and “Communist Manifesto”(Karl Marx). You need to look,- what was done in the name of those anti-human Ideologies.

      Same with Islam: take a look, what was done in the name of Islam!


      • Sherry
        Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:42:38

        We must understand that Islam is a “theopolitical ideology” as West sad. It IS a religion-an ideological religion where all is done in the name of Allah. It is a religion where outer workings gains salvation according to their beliefs unlike the inner working of God for the Christians. It is because of their religion that they have a fascist/totalitarian ideology.

  61. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 13:46:03

    For those of you unfamiliar with the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and around the world read this. Commit it to memory. You’ll need it. Muslim Brotherhood groups in the US (Hamas-linked CAIR, ISN, MAS, MSU etc) are engaged in a propaganda war intent on deceiving the American people about the true nature of the Muslim Brotherhood until it’s too late.


  62. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:01:18

    UK police recorded at least 2,823 so-called honour attacks last year, figures from 39 out of 52 forces show.


    • Sherry
      Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:45:01

      Well now, that’s not very nice for a tolerant people to do.

      “Its part of Muslims’ religion to abuse, terrorize and murder women who step out of line. Infidel criticism is racist and insensitive to their religious freedom.”


  63. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 15:14:56

    Yes, on the way to the Middle East utopia do stop off and adopt a Bill of Rights. It made such a nice adornment to the Soviet Constitution. Who says the secret police have been toppled? Any really democratic state will need them to deal with Salafist terrorists, while the Islamist-ruled regimes to come will need them to suppress democrats, secularists, Christians, feminists, and those who will be called Zionist and imperialist agents.


  64. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 17:42:11

    Why, I wonder? Could it be the religion of peace and tolerance won’t tolerate them?


  65. Kim
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 18:27:06

    There is a plan, alright – and our campaigner in chief is complicit in it all


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